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SFuzzy
01-23-2005, 09:40 AM
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Ok, I don't have kids so maybe I just don't understand how hard it is to be a parent but I am SOO SICK of hearing kids get on here whose parents won't let them have animals but then they do and then they change their minds and then they get them another animal and then they tell them they have to get rid of an animal... GRRR!!!

Sounds like there is a lot of irresponsible parenting going on out there!! Part of parenting is monitoring your children.

I do understand how hard it can be to some degree. Most of my life I worked in child care and I’ve been a nanny in the past (I know it’s not quit the same) but it seems to me these parents who make a habit out of interchangeably saying yes and no are adding a lot of turmoil to this world. And I am SOOOO tired of animals being on the bad end of it all.

WAKE UP!! PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOUR KIDS ARE DOING AND IF you must change your mind about things realize that when it comes to animals it is your responsibility and not your child’s to make sure the animal(s) is being properly cared for.

:confused: Can you report a parent for letting their kid ruin the lives of animals? I wish these things were taken more seriously.. I hate all this ‘have to get rid of everything’ in one post and then ‘looking for new’ in a second post running simultaneously. I’ve been in tight spots so don’t let me fool you into thinking I don’t understand how unfortunate life can be but some people!! Like the ones who’ve got a post explaining why they can’t keep a non-breeding pair and then in another post are looking to take-in PET-ONLY chins. Something fishy going on here.

:D For those of you who may not have thought about it please research those who would take in your baby if you have to find a new home.. Go through their old posts and see how often they have emergency ‘must find home’ and how often they are ‘seeking new pet’.



:angry: I guess I’m just sick of irresponsible pet-owners everywhere. Pets are not shoes or things that can be bought sold and traded and shame on those who have made a hobby out it as if they were baseball cards..



If you learn from an idiot maybe you can correct their stupidity instead of becoming an idiot yourself.



BTW-anybody who does rescues and re-homes I know that that is a completely different story and I would like to say to you, on behalf of all these poor animals everywhere, thank you (I know they thank you in their own way) and keep up the good work!!:D

kryssy
01-23-2005, 10:47 AM
Well if someone without kids can post about parenting, I guess I can. Don't take that wrong I am not trying to be rude. I have kids and my youngest 2 (turning 8 and 10 during the nest two weeks) both have pets. They are responsible for their pets and take very good care of them. They use their own money to pay for all food, vet and toys. I feel that being a kid and having a pet totally depends on the kids and the parents. Most parents in general realize that a child can not be totally responsible for a pet and that they will at some point need to care for it. Children grow up and start sleeping over at friends, going on class trips and eventually go away to college. I have rescued many types of animals from dogs & cats, chinnies & guineas, to pigs & ponies. We even rehomed some geese. Many times we hear that they didn't realize the cost or life styles have changed. More often then a parent giving up a childs pet I hear that they are getting a new pet and don't want to old one. Parents giving up a childs pet is not as common as many other more horrifying situations that reaccur again and again. We've seen several cases in which peoples dogs kept getting pregnant and they would not give up the puppies because they have become too attachedthey say. Yet we get called becasue there are a couple dozen dogs, in one case a couple hundred, living in nasty conditions. The dogs are removed and many put down due to health issues. Lets see we love our animals so much we can't find them loving homes, but we can starve them because we can't afford food and let them get sick and die, because vet bills are too hi. I think that we just take notice because it is put out there in such a way we all say OMG how can a child take care of a pet. There are far more adults out there without children doing the same thing. It's just easier for some to say, well I got it for my kid. It not being an irresposible parent, it's being an irresponsible person. I see nothing wrong with getting a child a pet as long as the child and the adult are responsible enough. Start with a family pet giving the child chores to do with that pet. We started with a cat when my youngest was a year. When they are ready give them their own if they want. Cody got his own cat when he was 5 and his guinea pig when he was 7. Dakota got her dog when she was 6 and her guinea pig when she was 7. they are all healthy and well loved and cared for. Dakota wants a chinnie, and I am hoping by 4H I can get her the one she wants. I think it all depends on the adults and the children.

SilverKitty
01-23-2005, 10:55 AM
You know what just burns me up? When a parent buys a pet for their child after they've whinned and whinned over it and then doesn't make them take care of it! I know this woman who has three children...her youngest is now maybe 11 or 12. Well, this little girl from the age of 4 or so has been killing animals right and left. First it started out with kittens...she would get these kittens and not feed or water them and would handle them VERY rough. They shortly passed away or "ran away" as the parents said. Next were the bunnies. She had COUNTLESS bunnies that kept "running away" after not feeding or watering them - not to meantion their HORRID living conditions. They were basically sleeping in a giant pile of their own waste in a VERY small cage (and -I- would go feed and water them...poor things). Next was betas - you know...the beautiful fish. She would NOT clean their tank (mind you she was then about 10). She continued to say "they don't like to have their water clean. it always kills them." I thought enough was enough by then and begin...yes...stealing these fish from her home and claiming they had passed while she was school. I just couldn't take it. But each one I attempted to help passed on rather quickly and could not be saved. Next was the hamster. These were the worst of all of them. She refused to touch them (They bite and pee on me!) and REFUSED to clean their cage because "They always die when I clean the cage so I just leave it alone and they live longer!" I continually would sneak into the room where the hamster would be kept and would feed and water it (it would have NO water at all to live on). She currently has one right now and I'm trying to convince her to let me clean the cage out but she keeps saying that it's going to die if I do. I'm so tired of seeing these animals suffering. I wouldn't make anyone lay in their waste and live like that! What makes it so bad is...get this...her parents see NOTHING wrong with this.
"They're just little pets"
"They're just animals"
"We can always buy another one"
"Oh it was cheap so it doesn't matter"
Argh! YOU BOUGHT IT THEN YOU HELP CARE FOR IT! YOU ASKED FOR IT THEN YOU CARE FOR IT!
I think the parents should have told her like it was. "It died because you did not take care of it. Next time you will learn. Pets need food and water every day and they need their living space cleaned too!" I mean if my daughter was killing that many I would be rude and stern with her. Then again, I would have told her from the very beginning about taking care of it and if she didn't it would die. I'm just like that - the child needs to know the consequences.

Oh, I forgot, now she is begging for a chinchilla. I can't stand it. I hope she doesn't get one...and if she does I will have to care for it constantly. I just don't understand the parents thinking...(Yes, I have dicussed these animals deaths with them before and they deemed me as insane because "she's just a little girl!").

SilverKitty
01-23-2005, 11:03 AM
Oh yes...I didn't meantion this either...these people have a family dog...that is kept in the smallest lot you have EVER seen (seriously it's like us living in a small bathroom with no bathtub just waste basin and toilet - understand) and it's MY family who goes out and feeds and waters this dog...she is full bred miniature collie and would be BEAUTIFUL if she was cleaned up and taken care of...she doesn't bite...but she now has some lung problem and has lots of trouble breathing but does anyone over there notice? NO...why? Because "it's just a dog!" and they "Just don't have time"
It sickens me.

kryssy
01-23-2005, 11:04 AM
that is totaly an adult who needs slapped. If the child can not handle it the parent should have never let it get far enough that an animal should die. the worst part is this parent probably grew up believing it didn't matter they are just animals from their parent and this child is learning this irresponsible behavior to pass on to another generation. This sickens me. Even if they had no children their views towards animals would still be the same. That in my opinion makes for a sad human being. Not just the child need to learn the consequences but the adults as well. Letting a living creature die when it is in your care, you are the supossed adult in the situation, that is straight out cruelty. The adults need to be reported, fined, and court ordered not to have anymore pets in their home.

SilverKitty
01-23-2005, 11:13 AM
What I think is horrible is a stay had came to their house and had kittens this past summer. It has maybe 5 kittens and they were all solid black. Well, one of these kittens had gotten hurt while playing, we assume, and the mother had brought it up on the porch. I walked over there because I had left some things and saw this kitten. I went inside and brought it to their attention that the kitten could not walk and was struggling to even more. I tried to pick it up but it kept biting and scratching at me so I didn't want to put it in more pain moving it around. I told them they needed to take it to the vet immediately but they would not listen because "oh it's just a cat there's more" and I even offered to pay the vet bills! I would have driven it myself but I do not have a vehicle. I don't understand...I was willing to pay the bills and everything. The kitten laid on that porch and suffered for a few hours before it finally passed away. They all left to go to wal-mart after 15 minutes of watching it...and I just don't understand these people...
It was so horrible...the little kitten was in so much pain. The very least they could have done was take it to the vet to be put down so it wouldn't have to lay there and suffer so long. I tried my best to comfort it...just...ah...people!

Furball27
01-23-2005, 11:23 AM
that is totaly an adult who needs slapped. If the child can not handle it the parent should have never let it get far enough that an animal should die. the worst part is this parent probably grew up believing it didn't matter they are just animals from their parent and this child is learning this irresponsible behavior to pass on to another generation. This sickens me. Even if they had no children their views towards animals would still be the same. That in my opinion makes for a sad human being. Not just the child need to learn the consequences but the adults as well. Letting a living creature die when it is in your care, you are the supossed adult in the situation, that is straight out cruelty. The adults need to be reported, fined, and court ordered not to have anymore pets in their home.

I agree with kryssy, you CAN do something to help these animals: report them to your humane society. Tell them about the dog and how they don't feed or water thier other pets. They will get a fine for animal cruelty and thier pets will be taken away. Sneaking into the girl's room and "stealing" her pets isn't helping because her parents are just going to go out and buy more. Hit them where it hurts: in the wallet! Please report them. If nothing else, they will probably be reluctant to get any more animals once they realize they can be fined for not taking care of them the right way.

SilverKitty
01-23-2005, 11:46 AM
There's a problem with that, Furball27...there is no humane society in this area.

kryssy
01-23-2005, 12:06 PM
contact the police they will know who you can get in touch with, even social services might be able to tell you. It doesn't have to be in the area to help. We live in the middle of nowhere basically and yet our area shelters have gone all the way to the the northern border of MN to help. There is always some way to help, you just have to want to help bad enough.

luvothechase
01-23-2005, 12:11 PM
There must be one somewhere IN THE STATE! even if they are far away, they can usually help!