Pedigree Depth: Selling chins

[smokeyrd]

How many generations would you want to have, at minimum, on any chins that you sell? There is another post for if you are buying chins, as people often give different answers.

Edit: I know I cant spell...DOH! meant to say "How many generations" on the poll, not "who many generations". :|

[jessiegrl22]

I like for them to go back at least 2-3 generations. I think that is perfect.

[SHChins]

I have pedigrees on all my chins in breeding and I like to have atleast 3 or 4 generations back but most important I want to hear if those relatives are still living and if not what did they die from. I do have one pedigree with just the parents but I have had this particular female for a few years now and I feel confident that she is from healthy stock as her parents are still living and are healthy producers. I do have one chin that his pedigree goes back to 1992 and I have yet to enter his info into the evans software because it will take forever!

[Chingal]

All my chisn have 3+ generations pedigrees and like sh Chins I care more about what their lineage is Health wise nad quality wise. What were the grandparetns like , arethe ystill alive, were they shown , these are ALL questions I like to know.

[KatesCritters]

I chose "does really matter" because I only sold pet chins to pet homes. Pedigrees meant nothing to the buyers.

[lilchinchilla]

I'd prefer to have 3 or more generations but in some cases, I only got one generation of info for the parents(when coming from ranchers.). Sure, I could go ask for more information and sure I would get it, but knowing the rancher(s) I am talking about, it would mean hours of typing out the information(some have as many as 40 years or more of background history on their chins) and I don't have the time for it. Not to mention, the evan's software doesn't give me that far back of information. Some chins I sell have as many as 13 or 14 generations back, but it doesn't all show up on the pedigree.
When those who buy the chins request more info, I just tell them to go talk to the breeder of the parents. I trust who I buy from, and am confident in what they sell to me to breed, so I seldom go bothering them for further information unless I absolutely need it.

[SHChins]

Yea with Evans software you are only limited to 4 generations and I still would be typing a longtime to enter this males line because he has alot of stuff on his pedigree and alot of different Ranchers listed and alot of shows the relatives have won. But I will get to it oneday LOL!!

[chinkeep]

I chose "does really matter" because I only sold pet chins to pet homes. Pedigrees meant nothing to the buyers.

Pedigrees may mean nothing to the buyers, though in actuality they should, but do they mean anything to you? Do you just breed whatever you can get your hands on? Even if you are breeding/selling for pets, you should still be breeding quality animals and trying to produce quality animals for your customers. Who wants to buy an animal and then have to take it to the vet every few weeks to have its teeth trimmed because of maloclussion, or have to look at a chin that is ugly from chewing.


SHChins has the right idea with wanting to know the history of the lines. All a pedigree is going to tell you is when the animal was born, what sex it is, what color it is and what color the parents were, if that much. When you are buying animals from a breeder/rancher, you need to get a history of the lines that animal is from to ensure that you are at least breeding animals from healthy lines. It doesn't guarantee that the offspring may not have probems, but at least they have a better chance of being healthy and living a longer life.

[KatesCritters]

Pedigrees may mean nothing to the buyers, though in actuality they should, but do they mean anything to you? Do you just breed whatever you can get your hands on? Even if you are breeding/selling for pets, you should still be breeding quality animals and trying to produce quality animals for your customers. Who wants to buy an animal and then have to take it to the vet every few weeks to have its teeth trimmed because of maloclussion, or have to look at a chin that is ugly from chewing.


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My breeding stock came from other breeders who were producing quality pet animals. They were by no means show quality animals, but they had healthy backgrounds, which is all I cared about.

[SHChins]

What if a health problem popped up in one of your kits? You need to be a responsible breeder and know that if some health issues come up as far as genetic then you would need to have Ranch brands or some info to go back on a pedigree to let the original breeder know what genetic health issues they should look for in that particular line and make that breeder aware that it could possibly be in their lines. This is why we don't breed petstore chins or any animals that you cannot trace a heritage on. This is not good breeding practices and alot of us breeders that do care about our lines are breeding for improvement of the Chinchillas. What is your goal for improving the health and quality of the breed if you have no background on your chins?

I can go back to any of my breeders that I bought chins from if I have a problem come up in the lines and I let them know that ( for example SHC-R45) is 8mos old and was just diagnosed with maloclussion and tell the breeder that name brand and they can look up that kits parents and then I have passed along information for them to be aware to look for in the future from offspring. Sure you can go back to your breeder and ask but what if they already sold the parents or the parents died and they did not record any info as to why those parents died or remember who they sold them to. These are things to think about when you place two animals together for the purpose of breeding. I am not trying to lecture you or tell you what you should do but it saddens me to see so little care of the spieces and some people breeding just to produce cute kits.