Realin and Kiha.....

[Super_Girl456]

Hey everyone. I have a few questions. I've never had 2 hedgehog live together yet alone be in the same cage/play area. When I 1st got Nuka and Zoey I had them bought together and separated them soon after getting in the car. I put them back together because they turned cold and I didn't know what to do. Soon after putting them together Zoey bit Nuka and I never put them back together. I was stupid them and so scared of losing them I did whatever I thought was right.

Anyway back to the reason I'm writing....
Raelin and Kiha........ Strange hedgehogs! I've had them for a while now and I'm stating the see their personalities, Raelin is hyper and crazy and Kiha is slow and calm. Now I've been hearing sounds little squeaks. Scared to find babies from the new rescues, I looked anyway. No Babies, but still herd the squeaks. I'd jump from my bed in the middle of the night to check on them all. Nothing! No Blood, No marks, Nothing! I couldn't figure out who it was. Well, I opened all cages and woke each hedgehog and watched them. A hole hour of watching to find them all looking at me like I was crazy. days after hearing them I figured it was the new ones. Yet I wasn't sure because sometimes Zoey makes the same noises from her nose. I took Zoey out the room and put her in the bathroom. Later on I heard it and then I found that it was the new ones. I watched them.... Raelin runs around and around. In Circles! Why I have no Idea. Kiha walks slow and she's really clam. It is really making me think....
Should I separate them into their own cages and watch them closely?
Could there be something wrong with Raelin going nuts and just being Hyper?
Is it normal for a hedgehog to just go crazy every once and a while?
Could Kiha be slow because she isn't getting enough food or water?
Do you think Raelin would be Hogging it all?

Sorry for asking so many questions. I'm just so worried.....
No, I haven't taken them to the vet since I got them. :( I know Shame on me. I should have done that but I have had no money for a while. Right now I'm searching for a job and I'm baby sitting over night to make ends meat. I'm such a bad hedgie mom but I'm trying my best to keep my hedgehogs together with me and figure out what I can do to help make their lives a better and happier home. I haven't even bought myself one thing. My boyfriend has been helping out here in there but he can't help anymore because he just lost his job.
Can anyone help me?:confused:

[Super_Girl456]

I've been waiting to see if anyone could help me but I guess everyone is asleep or busy........ I guess I'll leave them together until I hear them again and then I'll remove one to another cage. Not sure how they will take being apart. But I don't want anyone hurt. I just looked up how much money I have and I can take one hog to the vet. It's $37 for each hog. I hope nothing will be found. Wish me luck! I'll call the vet tomorrow and see when I can come in....:|

[Hedgmom50]

Good Morning, I guess it is a little early for some or pretty late for others. My name is Judith, and I have had rescue hedgies for nearly 3 yrs. now. I have had some of my girlys share their space without any problems, and others that were very definate that they wouldn't share *anything*. The trick to finding out if two or more girlys will get along is by slowly introducing them - in a general play area at first, and watch them very closely; if they seem to get along here, I would let them have a few more *play dates* before putting them together on a permanent basis....then continue to watch for any disagreements. I have two girls that have lived together for about 6 wks now, and have gotten along very well; however, the other night I heard that *squeaking noise* too....I knew there could not be babies, and when I went to check things out, I found one of the girlys *squeaking* at the other, for no apparent reason. I continued to watch and after a while, the *squeaker* made her way (around her roommate) to the back of their 'sleeping box'.....with this move, no more squeaking, and all was well. There haven't been any more *incidents* since that night. So I can only guess that it was a matter of *positioning* in their sleep area.
I don't know if this will help any. If you would like to e-mail me with any questions that I might be able to help with my addy: Hedgmom50@aol.com If not, good luck with your girlys - let us hear how they are doing.
Sincerely,

[Super_Girl456]

Well, Judith I stayed up a bit longer and heard nothing. I think sometimes it might be sleeping positioning. But it could be that they just don't know what to do. I don't really know the truth of how old they are and if they have ben together. When I got them they were together and seemed fine.
I am gonna stay and watch them as much as I can today ans see what goes on. I'm gonna take one out if I hear anything. I'm gonna try and watch Kiha because she is acting funny. I have some money that I just got from babysitting so I cantake her to the vet if needed. *Thank God* Well, I'll email you if I have any questions. Thank for responding.
Allie :)

[Super_Girl456]

:( Hey everyone, I'm not sure if anyone really cares but I just don't know what to do. Some of you know about Zoey being sick and have tried to help but nothing has worked. Shes been sick for 4 months now aand it's really becoming hard on me. I lost my job so I have no money coming in and as some of you know I took on 2 more hedgehogs, *Raelin and Kiha* I am really afraid something might be wrong with Raelin. I've had hedgehogs for a few years now and Never have I seen a hedgehog act like she does. She does nuts when her sister Kiha is no where in site. I had to sperate them tonight because after watching them, Kiha tried getting under Raelin like she was trying' to nurse or something. I'm not sure if she was biting or not. Then After moving each to a side of the cage Kiha ran in the igloo and Raelin ran around in a circle and then around the igloo going nuts. When she couldn't see or go a way she wanted to go, She'd squeal not loud and not in a way that sounds like pain, Just a little peep.
Now that I have no money I can't afford vet visits and I know they need it. I hate to give them up but it might be my only choice. I love all my hedgehogs very much and If this is what's gonna happen then I'd like them to go to someone I trust and who I know will take care of them. But it seems no one lives by me. I've tried to see if there was something I could do for Raelin to feel safe alone. I bought a small dog stuffed animal at the dollar store and I put it in my shirt while I did things around the house just so it's get my sent on it and I threw it in with her a little while ago and She trys to get under it and snuggle but she really cant and it's making her mad. I don't know what else to do. Shirt doesn't work. I've tried and they push it to the other side of the cage.
I am really out of ideas. If anyone knows of what I can do can you please PM me or Post here. I'll be up for as long as I can. I am going to baby sit tomorrow since it is the only way I'll be getting money for now. Please Help me if you can! All will be appreciated a lot.:hearts:

[Pringlesmom]

Hi
Sorry I couldnt help you last night. The obvious thing to see to me would be to separate them for a while and observe their behavior. You could put them together at playtime and watch, but mainly during dinner and times when they eat you could separate them. Has Kiha lost weight recently?? Raelin might be hogging all of the food if she is the more dominant one in the cage. I never had two hedgies at the same time, so these suggestions are just thoughts I had. Also, I dont think a hedgie can go "crazy." Like all animals such as dogs, etc...they have a playful side and some show it more that others. My boyfriends dog runs around the table when she is excited and it means "yes" for I have to go outside. I definately think your whole situation is something to just clear with the vet, however. I understand that you lost your job and that money is tight, but you could explain that to your vet and maybe start a payment plan. If the vet doesnt find anything medically wrong with them the cost shouldnt be that high. And you said you were babysitting, so if it were me and I was worried about noises, behaviors, and personalities..I would use that money for a vet visit to clear my mind. It's always good to have new animals looked over when you get them regardless of what kind they are. I hope this helps. Please consider the vet b\c in the long run they can provide you better answers to care for your new hedgies than we can.

[Super_Girl456]

Denise, Thanks for the advice but I really don't know what to do. My vet sucks monkey butt. They are more worried about getting money in their hands then helping my babies. I am gonna take one to the vet. I have enough money for one or 2 hogs to go to the vet but They want to know how all my other pets are doing before relly figuring out what is wrong with the animal that is in front of them. They just plain SUCK. I'm looking really I've been looking but their is no other really close vet and to bring them to another vet means I have to pay them for an exam again. Witch I can't aford. I'm Job hurting and looking for ways to get money. Believe me I'd do whatever to help my babies before doing a thing for myself. Last night Realin did go nuts. She went around and around in her cage non stop after taking Kiha away. I luckly got a rescue package in last night and it had a hedgie hat I grab it and stuffed the stuff dog in there and she slowly went up to it and then in it I let it go and she was good for the hole night. Today after coming home I check Zoey like I always do and then went over to see her. She was not under the hat but was out laid on her belly. I called her name and she slowly looked up and sniffed the air. She looks so Sad and I feel so bad but I know it's for her own good. Oh well, I'm just gonna take one step at a time with them. I'll mainly put them together again during play time but other then that they will not be together. Thanks again.

[Pringlesmom]

Does anyone have any other suggestions for Super_Girl456? I don't know how else to help. I really dont think anything is really wrong with Raelin. I just think she is an active hedgie. I used to video tape Pringle with night vision sometimes to get him running around, and when I looked back at the tape he was a bit wild and running around the cage a lot. It might just be what they do. Do you have a bucket wheel in their cages?? That is how they get their exercise and it would be a good place for Raelin to do her running. Keep giving them individual attention and snuggles though. Also, I hope you find a great vet. I know how it feels when you don't feel comfortable with your vet. I finally found one I liked. I dont know of any in your area. There is a link to vets in the hedgehog health section. Maybe that could help you. Let us know.