Breeding some animals and against breeding some?

[haleybobl]

I have recently heard a few opinions that people have had involving the purchase of a dog. I am currently researching for a new upcoming addition to my home within the next year or so for a certain dog purchase. This brought up a few comments that made me curious of what others thought. Keep in mind I totally support shelters/rescues as I have a rescue dog as well. I also volunteer a lot of my time for local rescues.

My question is why do some of the people that feel so strongly about adoption of shelter animals also breed animals of a different sort? I have seen in many situations where hedgie/chin/bird/ect. BREEDERS will ridicule others for making a purchase of a dog/cat. I understand there is probably MORE of the canine and feline species that are looking for homes, but there are still rescues of every kind that are in need as well. So in my opinion that make them hypocrites. Adding more animals to the world when you are so against others doing it is confusing to me. :dunno:

[CTChin]

Haley, I don't have a problem with someone purchasing a dog as long as it is from a REPUTABLE breeder. Many people misunderstand what a reputable breeder is. They breed true to the standard, do health tests that are important to their particular breed, have a health guarantee, are involved in their breed clubs, have homes lined up before they even make a litter, will always take a puppy back and so on. Yes, sometimes it costs more money but it is so important not to support back yard breeders and puppymills. They are the reason why there are so many animals in shelters and why so many are KILLED each year.

[Megan.]

I breed chins. I'm against most breeding of dogs/cats.

Why? 1000's of dogs and cats are sitting in shelters, and dying each year. 1000's of dogs are running the streets, with no where to go. The ONLY time i support BUYING a dog is from a RESPONSIBLE breeder, not a backyard breeder, not a petstore, not a mill. RESPONSIBLE breeder.

And YES- I am prepared to stop breeding chins when I feel the same thing that is with dogs/cats/guinea pigs is happening with chins.

[haleybobl]

And YES- I am prepared to stop breeding chins when I feel the same thing that is with dogs/cats/guinea pigs is happening with chins.

So it's ok to breed chins, untill it becomes a massive problem? Isn't that part of how the problem with cats and dogs got started? As I stated before, there are ALREADY chin rescues that need a home, so apparently the problem has already started. To me, it's just a different species. Mind you, I have no problem breeding ANY animal as long as it's done responsibly. However I am not about to ridicule people for it as I see some others do.

[Megan.]

Yes, the problem has started with chins. Again, it comes down to responsible breeding. The problem with chins lies in the hands of those who refuse to take back babies, those who pair anything and everything together to make a buck, those who plaina nd simple don't care. If we don't try and educate these people, and try and get them to change thier ways- then we are going to see thousands of chins sit and die in shelters IMO.


I am more then willing to stop breeding, and turn to rescue, and do more rescue work than I do now. I try and "do my part", am willing to take back kits, screen owners, not pair just anything, and split up my pairs at anytime to switch to rescue work if needed. If I was just waiting for the problem to be massive, I wouldn't be taking in rescues now. I know it has started.. I just hope it doesn't continue to get worse as the years go on, like it does with dogs/cats.

[Riven]

I agree with buying from responsible breeders, etc. and although there are many wonderful animals in shelters, I personally prefer to get my own from a breeder. This allows me to know their background and their parents. For example my weimaraners, I don't want to get one from a pound or rescue that I know nothing about then have to deal with hip dysplasia in a couple years, or find out that it just doesn't have that hunting instinct. I personally haven't had a litter of pups in two years bcause I don't have buyers lined up. I have several people waiting and they will wait until I have a few more because most of them have already bought pups from me and know what they are getting.
I already have my next two breeds of dog choosen. A puli, whom I want from good herding lines (please note I am on the top of the list of the Puli rescue, if a Puli that will fit into our family comes available it will be taken in) and a Irish Wolfhound, which because of their size and possible orthepedic problems I will only get from a breeder who can guarantee health. I'm sorry but I don't want to have to plan on hip and knee surgeries on a dog when I get it.

I know there are many dogs out there that need homes, but I don't think that wanting to buy from a breeder for these reasons makes me a bad person.

If everyone just turned to taking rescues, everything that at has been worked for will be lost, with any animal. If everyone stopped breeding and started taking in rescues, the great blood lines would be lost, and eventually all breeds would be gone, breeds that have taken hundreds of years to perfect. I'm quite sure this will offend someone, but I think it's ridiculous that people will go and pay $500.00 for a Yorkie-poo, or a cock-a-poo or a labradoodle when you can get a purebred for that. I'm not saying you can't "start" a new breed, but it takes selective breeding, a LOT of time, and most of all a standard. What does a standard yorkie-poo look like? What do you breed for? straight hair or curly? A baby doll face or a long slim nose? Personally I think it's a disgrace to both breeds.
**Please note this is my personal opinion, and everyone is entitles to their own opinions. If you have a pet that you love that is all matters, not what I or anyone else thinks about that animals breeding**

[mmantyh]

I agree with buying from responsible breeders, etc. and although there are many wonderful animals in shelters, I personally prefer to get my own from a breeder. This allows me to know their background and their parents. For example my weimaraners, I don't want to get one from a pound or rescue that I know nothing about then have to deal with hip dysplasia in a couple years, or find out that it just doesn't have that hunting instinct. I personally haven't had a litter of pups in two years bcause I don't have buyers lined up. I have several people waiting and they will wait until I have a few more because most of them have already bought pups from me and know what they are getting.
I already have my next two breeds of dog choosen. A puli, whom I want from good herding lines (please note I am on the top of the list of the Puli rescue, if a Puli that will fit into our family comes available it will be taken in) and a Irish Wolfhound, which because of their size and possible orthepedic problems I will only get from a breeder who can guarantee health. I'm sorry but I don't want to have to plan on hip and knee surgeries on a dog when I get it.

I know there are many dogs out there that need homes, but I don't think that wanting to buy from a breeder for these reasons makes me a bad person.

If everyone just turned to taking rescues, everything that at has been worked for will be lost, with any animal. If everyone stopped breeding and started taking in rescues, the great blood lines would be lost, and eventually all breeds would be gone, breeds that have taken hundreds of years to perfect. I'm quite sure this will offend someone, but I think it's ridiculous that people will go and pay $500.00 for a Yorkie-poo, or a cock-a-poo or a labradoodle when you can get a purebred for that. I'm not saying you can't "start" a new breed, but it takes selective breeding, a LOT of time, and most of all a standard. What does a standard yorkie-poo look like? What do you breed for? straight hair or curly? A baby doll face or a long slim nose? Personally I think it's a disgrace to both breeds.
**Please note this is my personal opinion, and everyone is entitles to their own opinions. If you have a pet that you love that is all matters, not what I or anyone else thinks about that animals breeding**

Sorry - This is off comment - I didn't know you breed Weimie's !! We have a Weimie/Vizsla mix ...an oops puppy from a local breeder who has both, LOL ...Luckily he got the best of both ...he looks like a dk auburn Weimie !

[Megan.]

Weims are AWESOME dogs! My sister has two unfortantly, one is from a breeder and the other from a petstore. I have a feeling she'll end up adding another after her old mix passes away(she's 14 now, but healthy as can be, and still plasy with the weims).

ok that was off topic LOL

[CTChin]

I agree with buying from responsible breeders, etc. and although there are many wonderful animals in shelters, I personally prefer to get my own from a breeder. This allows me to know their background and their parents. For example my weimaraners, I don't want to get one from a pound or rescue that I know nothing about then have to deal with hip dysplasia in a couple years, or find out that it just doesn't have that hunting instinct. I personally haven't had a litter of pups in two years bcause I don't have buyers lined up. I have several people waiting and they will wait until I have a few more because most of them have already bought pups from me and know what they are getting.
and a Irish Wolfhound, which because of their size and possible orthepedic problems I will only get from a breeder who can guarantee health. I'm sorry but I don't want to have to plan on hip and knee surgeries on a dog when I get it.



You still need to have a sizable bank account lined up for "what ifs" even from reputable breeders. I've seen a german shepherd who came from two OFA excellant parents come down with terrible hip dysplasia. Even well bred wolfhounds are prone to bone cancer.

[Midwest Exotics]

heck, i kinda feel the problem has started with chinchillas, ferrets, sugar gliders & so on already, but your always going to have people breeding. So i feel if someone is going to breed they BETTER be breeding quallity animals & not a reascue or unhealthy animal.

No one should breed until it becomes a problem, they really shouldnt! But its never going to stop people from doing it, with great animals or not. Heck, do you think ANYONE on here would give up breeding just because they get in 5 rescues a month? No, most just find homes for the rescues or keep them, then continue to breed. (i suppose i do fall into that catagory a touch.) I have gotten a few rescues & do still breed, but im not getting a steady flow of rescues givin or sold to me.
Ok, some people, maybe would stop, but lots, no! We see it everyday. If i were getting in a TON of rescues & or hearing of our shelters being over populated with chinchillas i would no doubt stop my breeding & help find homes for those in need first, its my job as a breeder to help needy ones as much as ones i breed.

Im actually thinking about getting my last intact male glider fixed because over the last 4 months i have had 19.. *19* gliders surrendered to me with supplies for FREE!!!!
People just dont get what it takes to care for animals like some of us do & they dont keep them. Some people dont get what it takes to breed & then breed breed breed & have no where for the young to go. It really is sad, but its a fact of life that will never be changed until laws are different, & even then im sure people wont always tend to the rules.