Breeding Animals Petition

[TXChinchi]

Help save the Homeless animal population. Please sign the Petition below and you could save a life. Whether it be dogs or cats, every signature counts. If you agree that breeding animals for profit is wrong, click on the link to read and sign the petition. Im sick and tired of dogs being euthanized in shelters just for being born. Join me and fight against unknowledgeable breeders and save countless amounts of lives!

Sign and Read the Petition (http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/BreedingAnimals)

[Meep]

While your intentions are good, this is absolutely rediculous. Wouldn't this be the end to all species? Instead of people breeding for profit, there will still be the people that want to breed mutt #1 to mutt #2 just to see the miracle of life. With this petition, you'd really be screwing over the responsible breeders that are trying to improve the breeds.

[kare_bear]

I would rather sign a petition to stop stupid PEOPLE from breeding. This world has way too many stupid people as is.

[AminalTales]

While your intentions are good, this is absolutely rediculous. Wouldn't this be the end to all species?
I think that question is ridiculous! How in H*** would it be the end of all species?!
Anyway I will glady sign the petition :)

[bball]

well, if you stop breeding, eventually there will be no animals at shelters, and then after years and years all the dogs or cats would disappear.

[Meep]

I think that question is ridiculous! How in H*** would it be the end of all species?!
Anyway I will glady sign the petition :)

Why would you sign a petition like that? So that means that all responsible breeders of dogs and cats would either need to stop breeding, or give all the offspring away. After all the vet bills and care, who would want to give them away? I agree we need to put a stop to all the people that want all the dang 'insert dog breed here'-a-poos, and the other mutts, but a petition like that would mean the end of the good breeds. Everyone that has been working years on improving a breed, now should just stop? Chin breeders - from now on, you can still breed, but you aren't going to make a profit. How stupid.

[kaiteedyd]

I have to disagree with you on this one. I doubt very many people even make much of a profit off of breeding when you figure the time spent per hour on raising babies of any species. If you do even manage to make a profit it probably works out to $2.00/hr.

Most people who breed animals do it because a) they love animals or b)they are mistaken and think they can make a profit.

Besides I don't really think their should be legislature limiting who can and cannot breed animals.

I think educating people about animal overpopulation is a great thing as is encouraging adoption and discouraging 'backyard/mill breeding'. Oh and also enforcing the current laws.

[Riven]

I would like someone to define "breeding for profit". I think the only people who can really breed for a profit is (a. High quality champion show animals (the kinds that sell for $1000's +) and (b. mills, puppy mills, chin mills, cat mills.

When I have a litter of Weimaraner pups, I don't really make anything figure 6 pups at $300 = 1800 - 400 (stud fee) = 1400,
dew claws and tail docks, first deworming - 200 = 1200
First sets of shots + deworming - 240 = 960
Second sets of shots + deworming - 240 = 720
Puppy food for 6 pups - 300 = 420
AKC registration - 80 = 360
1 during pregnancy vet check w/ exray/ultrasound - 120 = 240
Extra food for mom while pregnant - 100 = 140
Figure all the work you put in for $140.00..... not worth it just for the money!!
This doesn't include emergency visits, a smaller litter, c-section, hip dysplasia testing for both parents (if it hadn't been done previously), other genetic testing, micro chipping, bedding, and TIME put into the litter.

Most GOOD breeders do NOT make money off breeding! Should these animals have to be given away? Or doesn't "profit" include the cost of raising and producing a litter of any animal? If you want to make a difference start a petition to charge a "tax" on purchasing an animal and use that tax money to spay and nueter everything that shouldn't be breed or comes through a shelter, is free in the paper, etc.

*NOTE* These are average figures for my vet, and my food (Hills Science Diet), and my methods. Some fees such as AKC may be different, I haven't had a litter for two and a half years and that is just and estimatation. This is MY opinion if you don't like it, fine. :)

[Meep]

I would like someone to define "breeding for profit". I think the only people who can really breed for a profit is (a. High quality champion show animals (the kinds that sell for $1000's +) and (b. mills, puppy mills, chin mills, cat mills.

When I have a litter of Weimaraner pups, I don't really make anything figure 6 pups at $300 = 1800 - 400 (stud fee) = 1400,
dew claws and tail docks, first deworming - 200 = 1200
First sets of shots + deworming - 240 = 960
Second sets of shots + deworming - 240 = 720
Puppy food for 6 pups - 300 = 420
AKC registration - 80 = 360
1 during pregnancy vet check w/ exray/ultrasound - 120 = 240
Extra food for mom while pregnant - 100 = 140
Figure all the work you put in for $140.00..... not worth it just for the money!!
This doesn't include emergency visits, a smaller litter, c-section, hip dysplasia testing for both parents (if it hadn't been done previously), other genetic testing, micro chipping, bedding, and TIME put into the litter.

Most GOOD breeders do NOT make money off breeding! Should these animals have to be given away? Or doesn't "profit" include the cost of raising and producing a litter of any animal? If you want to make a difference start a petition to charge a "tax" on purchasing an animal and use that tax money to spay and nueter everything that shouldn't be breed or comes through a shelter, is free in the paper, etc.

*NOTE* These are average figures for my vet, and my food (Hills Science Diet), and my methods. Some fees such as AKC may be different, I haven't had a litter for two and a half years and that is just and estimatation. This is MY opinion if you don't like it, fine. :)


You're right. I thought about editing my post, but I had already left the computer. I shouldn't really put 'profit'. How many people would still breed if they couldn't make anything back on their animals though? I would never raise dogs or cats 'for the money' involved. It should be out of pure love for the breed. I just couldn't see myself raising an animal and not at least making the money back on bills.

[Sketch]

I'm fully prepared and expecting flames for this.. but I'm going to be frank when I think you're petition is silly. And its for a number of reasons... First off, I support your ambition for trying to find the solution however I think you just came up with a bland idea and jotted it down without really thinking this through..

Your asking us to back an opinion that offers a very unorganized Solution.. You offer not example nor detail idea on how the liscense would be obtained.. Whats your requirements? Proof of Income.. Have my incomed in personal employment, odd equine side jobs that i can prove. Can I have a liscence...? Do you have to prove you can produce quality? How do you do that if you can produce a few litters to build the level of quality in your program? Can the unexperienced have a liscense? How old do you have to be? I'm under 21. Can I have one since I've been knowledgable with breeding and whelping puppies since 2003? or does the woman who is 30 with proof of income get one, even though she has no experience even owning a dog let alone breeding or raising puppies? What the cost of the liscense.. is there a litter limit? How many breeding females can you whelp in a year? Can you only breed for one breed or 2 or 3 or ? Are you prepared to present this issue to someone in power or are you just blowing smoke with no intention of doing anything...

Can you prove that breeders are the cause of sheltered animals or are you willing to come to a realization that 75% of dogs in a shelter were there by choice of their owners and not there breeders?

I think 95% of the breeders and sellers on this site could not honestly say they know where every single animal they have sold is at right this moment, not because they're careless but because there is only so much you can do as the breeder. And on the other hand I'm confident that some breeders here can.

When was the last time that you walked through the shelter? Count the ratio of pet owner surrenders to breeder surrenders.

I'm not trying to crush what you're doing but I'm preparing you for what your up against. I didn't even touch half the questions you're up against. Keep on truckin' but be ready for a very large fight.

Now..

My personal opinion.. I 'm not signing because I think that THIS will be THE CAUSE of PROFITTING off PETS. I say this enthuastically because I'm hoping it catches you're opinion. Soon these animals will become a hard to find pet. You'll have limited amount of breeders in very few areas. And because they know they're the only ones who breed for what they breed for they jack up the prices. You instantly open up animals to becoming a limited production profitting tool rather than a maintenance priced pet available locally to familys and pet owners alike. Catch my drift?