Suppliers using inside-out USPS boxes...

[lilchinchilla]

Not always easy to tell if they've been re used.

I have gotten supplies shipped to me from the US with those boxes inside as fillers. They look brand new and not used except to be folded up into a box. And yup, I used them to ship supplies out to others. **** some of them are those priority or whatever boxes, I still use them. I didn't even know it was illegal in the US. I'll use about anything that fits what I am sending out, in it, and is durable to withstand shipping. Don't care if it has stickers or is brand spanking new looking.

What's important to me is to save people money if I can. It's probably why I am always broke, lol, but oh well. :winkgrin:

So basically these people you all are referring to are ordering the boxes and using them for a different use then what they were ordered for? They are not re using something that is sent to them? Like, you're sure?

[kikilin]

I agree...I buy and sell stuff on eBay, and I always keep the boxes that I receive things in. If they're in good condition, I reuse them...sometimes they are priority boxes that I put paper over and send through UPS, and sometimes I send them priority (depending on which is less expensive).

I have never even thought of turning a box inside out...that thought never entered my mind...I guess because my intention was never to cheat the system...I just figure I'm reusing a box. Is it still illegal to REUSE a priority box for something other than priority?? I don't think it says that on the actual box...I've never ordered NEW boxes...just reused.

But if someone received something I sent in a reused priority box, through UPS, and had a problem with it...I GUESS I'd refund their money and request the item back... :dunno: I wouldn't get it...but I also don't want negative feedback. As far as reporting me to the police or to USPS...well...I can think of better things they could be doing with their time...and I don't think it would get very far, because the boxes are reused...but I could be wrong.

Not always easy to tell if they've been re used.

I have gotten supplies shipped to me from the US with those boxes inside as fillers. They look brand new and not used except to be folded up into a box. And yup, I used them to ship supplies out to others. **** some of them are those priority or whatever boxes, I still use them. I didn't even know it was illegal in the US. I'll use about anything that fits what I am sending out, in it, and is durable to withstand shipping. Don't care if it has stickers or is brand spanking new looking.

What's important to me is to save people money if I can. It's probably why I am always broke, lol, but oh well. :winkgrin:

So basically these people you all are referring to are ordering the boxes and using them for a different use then what they were ordered for? They are not re using something that is sent to them? Like, you're sure?

[almostperfect10]

Maybe I missed something, so forgive me if this has already been answered: If the box has been shipped priority once, isn't the box already paid for? If so, at that point the box becomes yours, right? It seems silly to have to keep paying for the same box over and over again if you reuse it (even though I have reused a flat rate box as a flat rate box on several occasions).

I wouldn't go to the post office to get a brand new free box to FedEx something in, but if someone has sent me a Priority Mail box, I really don't feel bad reusing it in the future with whichever shipping service I choose. It kills me to throw perfectly good boxes away, and of course I'm going to use whoever can ship my stuff the least expensively.

I have noticed that the new Priority Mail boxed are printed on the inside. I guess they figure people who steal boxes probably won't put in the time and effort to rewrap them in brown paper.

[Riven]

We're refering to ordering boxes for free just to turn them inside out and have free boxes.

[Kiki's Mom]

Now if you gave that poor little girl you mentor new clothes every week to wear to school and she took them and sold them to someone so she could have the money for candy or what not, would you be upset? If she was abusing the privlege you were giving her would you keep doing it? I doubt it. It's no different. Just because it's a semi-government agency it's no different.

That's really freakin' scary if you believe that.

[The Animal Farm]

:horse1:

[Kiki's Mom]

So let me get this straight you're 35 years old and don't understand how these wonderful pet people cutting small corners raises everyone else postage? I mean come on, if they want to use the free boxes pay the Priority cost!

Sorry for the double post, I should have included this on my previous one. I have my opinions about the USPS' ability to manage money based on articles I have read. For example, "One need only look as far as USPS's own Office of Inspector General (OIG). In its most recent report, OIG identified well more than $1 billion in wasteful spending and mismanagement in the mail business alone. OIG has churned out hundreds of reports detailing an epidemic of mismanagement at USPS. Both the Postal Rate Commission and OIG have questioned the integrity of USPS data." You can choose to believe what you want to believe about them, I'll choose to believe what I want to believe. And for the record, I'm 34 until September. Please don't make me older than I am!

[tunes]

Since this really doesn't have anything to do with chins, I'm moving it to the general chit chat debate section. :)

[ChicagoKim]

I guess I must be bad then. I re use any boxes I get here, and ship supplies out in them. I don't care if they say dog food on them or whatever. If it is something I bought and got sent to me, and is durable for shipping, I use it.
Hi Serena,

I don't think anybody has a problem with re-using a regular box like you're talking about. We're talking about the brand new boxes from the USPS that are free for use with Priority Mail only. The boxes I received aren't used boxes turned inside-out -- they were new. They're turned inside-out to cover up that they're a pilfered box from the post office.

[ChicagoKim]

"One need only look as far as USPS's own Office of Inspector General (OIG). In its most recent report, OIG identified well more than $1 billion in wasteful spending and mismanagement in the mail business alone. OIG has churned out hundreds of reports detailing an epidemic of mismanagement at USPS. Both the Postal Rate Commission and OIG have questioned the integrity of USPS data."
I fail to see any relevance whatsoever.

Walmart hires part-time workers to avoid healthcare coverage. I have a problem with that. Can I steal packs of gum from them every week?

Grocery stores, even Whole Foods and the like, keep peddling seafood as a miracle cure, even though a can of tuna can contain enough mercury to give an unborn child lifelong, debilitating problems. My son has chronic, serious health problems relating to mercury poisoning. I have a real problem with that. Can I stick some of their chap stick in my pocket each time I'm in the checkout?

The lady down the street wears a fur coat. I have a real problem with that. Can I snag her newspaper each week before she gets up?

We all lose sleep over abused and neglected animals. Still... fail to see the relevance.

"Cutting corners," seems to me a euphemism for "petty theft." Is stealing USPS boxes on par with world poverty? cancer? personal tragedy? No. But if a person or business is doing it knowingly and as a matter of habit, I still find it reprehensible, and always will.

I'm glad to see I'm not alone on that perspective.